Sussex councils defend use of 'snooping' powers
Hidden cameras, secret recording
devices and private investigators
are being used to snoop on people in Sussex.
Workers hide in parked cars to watch
benefits cheats, while sleuths are dispatched
to track down people who have been summonsed.
The techniques, more associated with
spy fiction than the work of rural councils,
are being used to solve crimes like
fly-tipping, nuisance noise and vandalism.
Councils have the power to snoop on
people suspected of breaking the law -
but critics say greater transparency and
more safeguards are needed to make
sure the process is not abused.
Council officers in Sussex made 112
requests last year for the right to use surveillance
under the Regulation of Investigatory
Powers Act 2000 - known as Ripa.
Most of the cases were investigations
into rogue traders or benefits cheats.
Other suspected offences ranged from
fly-tipping to graffiti.
Councils nationally have faced accusations
of overkill for using the Act to
solve low-level crimes.
But Sussex councils told The Argus
the powers are vital to saving the taxpayer
money and fighting antisocial behaviour and fraud.
The actual amount of surveillance
and monitoring of people living in Sussex
remains hidden because Government
ministries and other agencies
refuse to confirm or deny whether they use the powers.
Hundreds of public bodies as diverse
as the NHS, Whitehall departments and
the Royal Pharmaceutical Society are
eligible to use the Act.
Brighton and Hove City Council workers
made 19 requests to use powers
under Act in 2007, mostly to find out the
identities of subscribers to telephone
numbers and internet sites used in trading
standards investigations.
It was also used to investigate flytipping
and vandalism.
The council said the Act was
necessary to provide speedy and cost-effective
results.
A spokesman said: "We use these powers
to protect the public from criminals.
These range from fraudsters to people
fly-tipping trade waste on local beauty
spots. Without such evidence many
prosecutions would fail, council money
would be wasted on investigations
and rogue traders would go on fleecing residents."
The council was inspected by the
Office of Surveillance Commissioners,
the body which oversees the use of the
Act, but the inspection report has not
been released.
Councillor Keith Taylor, convenor of
Brighton and Hove City Council's Green
Party, called for councils to publish such
reports. He said openness was vital to
make sure councils use their powers appropriately.
He said: "While I understand the need
for the council to be able to verify claims
for public money, we must be vigilant to
see these powers are not abused."
One department of Crawley Borough
Council used the Act to entitle officers to
use "directed surveillance" to discover
who damaged the lock to a block of flats.
The council also confirmed a private
"searching agent" had been employed to
find someone who was subject to a summons.
This year, a covert worker has been
used to spy on a housing benefits suspect
from a car to establish their home
address. A council spokesperson said:
"Crawley Council uses the Act's powers
very sparingly. Any application to use
the powers have to be signed off by a
senior manager."
Wealden District Council used the Act
to monitor the source of nuisance noise
and to investigate fly-tipping and antisocial
behaviour.
A spokesman said: "Within a large
rural area such as Wealden, it is increasingly
difficult to catch those who seek
to blight our rural landscapes, towns
and villages through antisocial crimes
such as fly-tipping, graffiti and noise nuisance."
The council said surveillance cameras
and recording equipment were only used
when it was "necessary and proportionate".
West Sussex trading standards made
the most applications under the Act in
2007. Officers investigated cold-calling
tarmac traders, poor workmanship of
businesses installing driveways and
Trade Descriptions Act offences.
Worthing Borough Council is known
to have used the Act to obtain information
from a private investigator about
housing benefits and council tax fraud.
Mid Sussex District Council used it to
investigate 17 benefits fraud and five
environmental health offences, while
Lewes District Council used it for suspected
fly-tipping and criminal damage.
Chichester District Council used the
Act to investigate housing benefit, environmental
health and community safety
offences.
Hastings Borough Council investigated
fly-tipping and a housing benefit claimant.
12:44pm Friday 16th May 2008
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CommentPosted by: paul, brightin on 1:09pm Fri 16 May 08
Don't confuse CCTV installed to observe and protect public property and snooping.
Noone other than the police should be allowed to identify/target individuals.
Don't confuse CCTV installed to observe and protect public property and snooping.
Noone other than the police should be allowed to identify/target individuals.
Posted by: bobby bigballs, Brighton on 1:54pm Fri 16 May 08
I cant see anything wrong with this if you've nothing to hide. I used to do a similar job in London to catch fare dodgers on the trains. Why should benefit cheats get away with it.
I cant see anything wrong with this if you've nothing to hide. I used to do a similar job in London to catch fare dodgers on the trains. Why should benefit cheats get away with it.
Posted by: Legs11, Brighton on 2:24pm Fri 16 May 08
Do we the public get the same powers and equipment to spy on the council? it would only be fair wouldn't it? Would love to spy on planning committee's especially ones involving large developers-you know who I'm talking about councilors!
Do we the public get the same powers and equipment to spy on the council? it would only be fair wouldn't it? Would love to spy on planning committee's especially ones involving large developers-you know who I'm talking about councilors!
Posted by: tumble, weed on 2:29pm Fri 16 May 08
Its a great idea,if its used to catch the likes of fly tippers and benefits cheats.As long as the people doing the snooping are honest(a rare trait these days)and not getting payed or rewarded per number of successful prosecutions,if that is the case then LOOK OUT,some people just cant help themselves in these days of selfish greed.
As long as its used right across the board,and not just as another new 'punish the poor' initiative.
Its a great idea,if its used to catch the likes of fly tippers and benefits cheats.As long as the people doing the snooping are honest(a rare trait these days)and not getting payed or rewarded per number of successful prosecutions,if that is the case then LOOK OUT,some people just cant help themselves in these days of selfish greed.
As long as its used right across the board,and not just as another new 'punish the poor' initiative.
Posted by: No, Way on 2:59pm Fri 16 May 08
OK...
Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.
SIMPLE AS THAT.
Now go away, you Human Rights Hippies.
OK...
Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.
SIMPLE AS THAT.
Now go away, you Human Rights Hippies.
Posted by: Anti Establishment, Brighton on 3:27pm Fri 16 May 08
sadly some comments completely miss the point.If you have the names of so many dole cheats,report them to the relevent department.
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
Pastor Martin Niemöller
sadly some comments completely miss the point.If you have the names of so many dole cheats,report them to the relevent department.
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
Pastor Martin Niemöller
Posted by: The Management, Sussex on 4:05pm Fri 16 May 08
We caught a council snooper once. Nasty, very nasty.
We caught a council snooper once. Nasty, very nasty.
Posted by: Nevahwen, at my desk on 4:25pm Fri 16 May 08
The 'you have nothing to fear if have nothing to hide' argument does absolutely nothing for me.
Hackers have been known to get into the Pentagon computers. So what happens when hackers get into the Councils’ computers and tamper with the files?
What happens when the Councils track the wrong people and incorrect information is passed on to the police?
Didn’t we learn enough about the general incompetence of various authorities last year?
It really is time that law abiding citizens developed a healthy scepticism to figure out what can go wrong rather than assuming everything will be fine.
The 'you have nothing to fear if have nothing to hide' argument does absolutely nothing for me.
Hackers have been known to get into the Pentagon computers. So what happens when hackers get into the Councils’ computers and tamper with the files?
What happens when the Councils track the wrong people and incorrect information is passed on to the police?
Didn’t we learn enough about the general incompetence of various authorities last year?
It really is time that law abiding citizens developed a healthy scepticism to figure out what can go wrong rather than assuming everything will be fine.
Posted by: Flat Foot Soozie, Brunswick Square on 4:35pm Fri 16 May 08
Nobody would take Councillor Watkins for James Bond.
Nobody would take Councillor Watkins for James Bond.
Posted by: Margaret, E Brighton on 7:26pm Fri 16 May 08
I wouldn't worry if you're breaking the law. I reported the local drug dealers to the police 5 times and they still haven't bothered to watch them. Mind you, I'd hate to be caught dropping litter on CCTV, I expect they go for soft targets.
I wouldn't worry if you're breaking the law. I reported the local drug dealers to the police 5 times and they still haven't bothered to watch them. Mind you, I'd hate to be caught dropping litter on CCTV, I expect they go for soft targets.
Posted by: Old George in the "ome, brighton on 9:03pm Sat 17 May 08
I don"t mind them snooping,providing they keep their noses out of my dustbin.Mind you,they won"t find my bin overflowing.I"ve been taking the bones out of the old girls corset,to boil up for soup.Happy days.
I don"t mind them snooping,providing they keep their noses out of my dustbin.Mind you,they won"t find my bin overflowing.I"ve been taking the bones out of the old girls corset,to boil up for soup.Happy days.
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